Charlie Rymer - Former Golf Channel Tour Player - Afterhours Encore
The discourse presented in this episode elucidates the evolving landscape of golf, particularly emphasizing the pivotal role of leadership within its governing bodies. We commence by discussing the recent appointment of Mark Darwin as the head of the RNA, positing that his background in rugby may herald a refreshing transformation for an organization historically perceived as antiquated. The dialogue further explores the notable surge in golf participation, attributing this phenomenon largely to the pandemic, which has seen an increase from 26 million to over 40 million golfers in the United States. We also scrutinize the current state of professional golf, highlighting the necessity for the PGA Tour to recalibrate its approach amidst a shifting paradigm. Ultimately, the overarching theme underscores the imperative for adaptation and progressive thinking within the sport to ensure its continued growth and relevance.
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Welcome to Grilling at the Green After Hours.
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Speaker A:I'm jt.
Speaker A:Today we've got Charlie Reimer, formerly of Golf Channel, formerly tour player, now executive VP at McLemore there.
Speaker A:And I can't wait to get back in and see that property with Charlie and do that.
Speaker A:We'll do a show, I promise when I come back, we will do a show from back there.
Speaker A:And I wanted to tell everybody, I don't know if you saw the announcement today, but Golf NewsNet, their TV channel, is going to go live here.
Speaker A:It's a real TV channel like on Rogue and all those kind of platforms.
Speaker A:The television version of this show, which actually has Leanne Whippen and myself cooking and then we're doing people profiles in the show.
Speaker A:It's a fun show, half hour long.
Speaker A:We're in the lineup there.
Speaker A:And so it just be a few weeks now and you'll be able to see this on tv.
Speaker A:How about that, Charlie?
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:I look great on tv.
Speaker A:I know you do.
Speaker B:This, this face was not designed for radio.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:You got the smile, you got the bright eyes, you got the whole thing there that, it's all good.
Speaker A:Do you miss getting up at three in the morning to go, to go on morning life, you know, it was.
Speaker B:It was a wonderful opportunity being able to do morning drive for, for years at Golf Channel.
Speaker B:I loved, I love the folks I work for.
Speaker B:I love doing the TV show when it started at 7am but the 3:10am wake up call every day, no, I don't miss that, not one bit.
Speaker B:It was, it was, you know, folks that work in morning television, the schedule is, is tough, especially for the behind the scenes folks, the technical folks.
Speaker B:And you, you got shows, you know, you watch the Today show on NBC.
Speaker B:You know, you got people that are coming in 11pm the night before, they're up all night.
Speaker B:And, and you got to love it.
Speaker B:And there's some sacrifice to it.
Speaker B:Talent comes in, you know, kind of last minute.
Speaker B:We're whining about it, but the people that are really working are coming in super early.
Speaker B:But it, you know, changes Your social life and some other things.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But I do miss doing live tv and in particular the people that I had a chance to work with at Golf Channel.
Speaker B:We had some great folks both in front of and behind the camera and, and kind of the, the thrill of when the red light comes on and, and all of a sudden you're live and a couple hundred countries around the world was, was always a lot of fun.
Speaker B:But I like sleeping in now here at Macklemore too.
Speaker A:I don't blame you.
Speaker A:I don't blame you.
Speaker A:I know I started my radio career as a morning drive guy in la.
Speaker A:Wasn't that bad.
Speaker A:But I had to beat the station.
Speaker A:6:00 and I went on the air at 6:30.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I was in college, so usually I'd gone to bed at least a couple hours before I had to show up like that.
Speaker A:It did make for some long mornings.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because then I got done with that.
Speaker A:I had about an hour break and then I had to go to class, so.
Speaker A:Oh gee.
Speaker B:Yeah, I didn't go to class much, but I did graduate.
Speaker A:Well, it's, it's not everybody's wired that way to, to do this type of work.
Speaker A:I'll just say that because it there, there is a lot of demands behind the scenes that people don't see.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:A lot of passion too.
Speaker A:A lot of passion.
Speaker A:You gotta love.
Speaker A:Gotta love what you do and you.
Speaker B:Gotta have some real thick skin.
Speaker B:Any kind of broadcast career.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:And, and I finally noshed it out, you know, that I did two things.
Speaker A:I really like to talk about golf and food.
Speaker A:And so I've got the best of both worlds as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:You know, it only took me 35 years to get there, but I mean, you know what, whatever the, you know, I think people, I think people should be happy with their lives if they can try to work for that.
Speaker A:Anyway, I wanted to touch something here, Charlie, that we kind of touched on in the, in the regular show.
Speaker A:I read where his name's Mark Darwin.
Speaker A:He was a rugby guy, but now he's the head of the rna.
Speaker A:You know, the RNA had a reputation, rightfully so, is kind of a stodgy group.
Speaker A:And from my perspective, I mean, there's their storied history and all that, but here's the guy that, you know, ran soccer, if you will, or rugby and those kinds of sports, and now he's the head of the rna.
Speaker A:I actually think he's going to be a good thing.
Speaker A:I don't I have never met him, never talked to him.
Speaker A:I don't know anything about him other than what I've read.
Speaker A:But I think it's going to give that image maybe a little uplift.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know a whole lot about it myself.
Speaker B:I think you certainly hit the nail on the head with RNA being stodgy.
Speaker B:You know, they would look at you down that long nose with the hair coming out of the nose and the ears and the dandruff on the back of the RNA blazer and, you know, pronounce that this is good for golf and that's bad for golf.
Speaker B:And you will do it my way and we'll all be miserable together.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's, that's the rna.
Speaker B:Golf has grown beyond that and, you know, pandemic, what it's done domestically and globally.
Speaker B:Let's, let's face it, the pandemic, which about killed me, that's another story.
Speaker B:It was a very real thing for me, I can tell you that.
Speaker B:But in the US we went from 26 million golfers to over 40 million golfers.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:Because the pandemic, you could argue, is the best thing to happen to golf since Arnold Palmer.
Speaker B:And, and you could say Tiger Woods.
Speaker B:Tiger woods got people to watch golf, which was great.
Speaker B:Arnold Palmer got people to play golf.
Speaker B:But what's going on now, it's, it's changing.
Speaker B:You look at Chairman Ridley at Augusta National.
Speaker B:He's an attorney, but he is a US Amateur champion.
Speaker B:He's a golfer at heart.
Speaker B:He's doing an amazing job with what they're doing at Augusta, with, with the, with the drive, chip and putt, with the, the, the Augusta National Women's Amateur, the amateur events where they had qualified amateurs in different parts of the world directly to the Masters.
Speaker B:Very progressive with their media.
Speaker B:They're doing a lot of things locally, socially.
Speaker B:They're embracing that.
Speaker B:They're a leader in the world of golf.
Speaker B:Maybe they've been the most consistent leader in the world of golf under the last two chairmen there.
Speaker B:Mike Wan, who's a friend of mine, heading up the USGA as CEO, one of the smartest guys you'll ever meet.
Speaker B:I knew Mike when he went over to run lpga.
Speaker B:Did a phenomenal job there.
Speaker B:He's an outside the box thinker and just doing some things differently.
Speaker B:I'm a proud member of the PGA of America.
Speaker B:Of course, Seth Waugh is leaving.
Speaker B:I haven't heard who the replacement is.
Speaker B:I used to be connected there as part of the governance structure.
Speaker B:I'm not But PGA of America will be very progressive and embracing its role of bringing more people to the game.
Speaker B:Increasing the enjoyment of the game is in the mission statement.
Speaker B:Other PGA of America.
Speaker B:So it's about time, you know, RNA gets on board with that.
Speaker B:The one that's really hurting right now, quite honestly, is the PGA Tour not being able to.
Speaker B:To.
Speaker B:To sew up what's going to happen in professional golf.
Speaker B:And, and I think the mess that we're in is because of PGA Tour and its leadership structure, quite honestly, was just lazy and not very smart because they had the, the.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:For the longest time, they had the hottest property in the world to sell in Tiger Woods.
Speaker B:They don't have Tiger woods to sell anymore.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:They became arrogant and, and they've got to kind of figure it out to bring professional golf in line with what the other governing bodies are doing.
Speaker B:Once we get that shored up, you know, there's nothing to hold back golf.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:This pandemic has shown people that golf is an amazing thing.
Speaker B:PGA Tours got to get it together.
Speaker B:These governing bodies have got to get it together, figure out what they're going to do with live, because golf is exploding.
Speaker B:Professional golf, which is becoming a smaller and smaller part of golf, has got to get its act cleaned up because more people are going out to play golf, which is great for the side of the business that I'm on now, than watch golf.
Speaker B:And, and you know, that's.
Speaker B:That's kind of sad.
Speaker B:We got to kind of find a balance there, and I hope we will.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:There's a lot of issues that got to be worked out right now in professional golf.
Speaker B:It'll happen.
Speaker B:I just have no idea how, why, when, but that needs to be done.
Speaker B:But the other governing bodies, they're doing a great job with phenomenal leadership.
Speaker B:And, and the majors have never been more important because it's the only time the best golfers in the world are together now.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You used to could say the best golfers in the world play on the PGA Tour.
Speaker B:Every tour in the world fed to the PGA Tour.
Speaker B:That's not the case now.
Speaker B:The majors have never been more important.
Speaker B:They're the biggest stage.
Speaker B:They're only getting bigger.
Speaker B:And the governing bodies know that, and they're handling them appropriately.
Speaker A:As an outsider, I would say, but as a guy who's been around promoting events and sports and stuff, which I have for a long time, when I saw the.
Speaker A:The Tour come out with the.
Speaker A:The elevated event thing, and virtually not all of them, but on Some of them, some of the tournaments that had been around and they were dyed in the wool PGA supporters and it seems to me that the tour turned their back on some of them.
Speaker A:Maybe they weren't the biggest event on the tour, but they'd been there for a long time.
Speaker A:And then so the, the week before they took a tournament and they elevated it and they got more prize money and this and that.
Speaker A:And the way they went about that to me was a little back ass words, but I'm not in the mix, so I don't know all the details.
Speaker A:But then some of these tournaments that had been around for a long time and maybe putting up 8 million bucks or something, and they said, well, that's not good enough now.
Speaker A:And they lost some sponsors on that, some people that had been pretty loyal to them over the years.
Speaker A:And you know, I don't care who you are, if you're an event manager, you can't lose 8 to 10 million dollar events because you made some dumbass decisions on something else.
Speaker A:That's just my take.
Speaker B:So that's, that's an astute take.
Speaker B:You know, HPGA Tour event is essentially is its own entity.
Speaker B:It's a charitable entity.
Speaker B:They run the event.
Speaker B:The money that's left over goes.
Speaker A:In.
Speaker B:Most situations to local charities in the area.
Speaker B:They conduct it.
Speaker B:There's amazing people that volunteer their time, energy, resources, their staff members that are paid from tournament directors on down.
Speaker B:Running a PGA Tour event is a large enterprise and the, the Tour has betrayed.
Speaker B:The PGA Tour has betrayed a lot of tour events over the years.
Speaker B:It goes back actually a long time ago to World Golf Championships, which now don't exist, thankfully.
Speaker B:But you take an event like the old Tucson Open that had been staple and had been there for years and years and years, and the Tour says, yeah, we're going to do a World Golf Championship and thanks for your 50 years of service, but you're done.
Speaker B:It broke my heart to see a lot of things that have, that have happened with the PGA Tour, but at the same time, I know, you know, there's, it's a challenging situation as well, but it's something that's got to be worked out and there's a lot of feelings that have been hurt and it might not be a real simple fix and it might take a while, but eventually we got to get it worked out for the good of all of us that love this game.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you, here in Portland, there was again a Pumpkin Ridge, it was a Korn Ferry Tour and a Hogan Tour and Nike, you know, name the.
Speaker B: mpionship at Pumpkin Ridge in: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I had one that Nike was the sponsor.
Speaker A:And you.
Speaker B:You went a Tour event.
Speaker B:I won one that year on the Nike Tour.
Speaker B:You get this really cool purple jacket.
Speaker B:I got it around here somewhere.
Speaker B:It's a little snug now, but I was presented with that that week.
Speaker B:I didn't win that Tour Championship, but I won earlier in the year.
Speaker B:But no, it was a great event.
Speaker B:Really, really neat golf course.
Speaker B:Bob cup, as I recall, did both of them.
Speaker B:There's been a lot of golf there.
Speaker B:I think most notable was US Women's Open, but then Tiger woods has hello World Moment there as well.
Speaker B:So just a great golf facility.
Speaker B:And I know you guys in Portland are proud of it and you should be.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But there's no event there now because they.
Speaker A:Five years ago, six years ago, whenever it was, all of a sudden they decided to Lagadaire ran the event here.
Speaker A:And then, you know, but they were tied in with Korn Ferry.
Speaker A:And then something was scheduling because the Tour moved something else and scheduling.
Speaker A:And then this was always a very successful event.
Speaker A:And they dumped a lot of money into local charity and amateur sports and stuff around here.
Speaker A:And it was a huge draw for the.
Speaker A:The general golf population.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it went away.
Speaker A:Now we.
Speaker A:We still have the LPGA Portland Classic, which has been around since Jesus was in preschool, but that's really the only professional event we have now.
Speaker A:They have some up north in Seattle, up at Sahali up there.
Speaker A:They had a women's tour up there.
Speaker A:And I think they've still got a Champions Tour event that goes up there.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, but they used to, you know, they used to have a regular tour event at the Portland Golf Club years ago.
Speaker A:And so I.
Speaker A:I don't ever figure out why they.
Speaker A:With a city.
Speaker A:I know we're not the biggest city in the country.
Speaker A:We're like 25th or something.
Speaker A:But we have a huge golf population here.
Speaker A:And thanks for pointing.
Speaker B:I used to do the Fred Meyer Challenge every year.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:For Peter Jacobson.
Speaker B:There was always Monday, Tuesday on espn.
Speaker B:That was an amazing event.
Speaker B:We would do that live on espn and I was typically a ground reporter there, and I love doing that event.
Speaker B:Great, great golf area, Portland.
Speaker A:I'll tell you.
Speaker A:I'll tell you a story about that.
Speaker A:I was there one time, had my little corporate badge on and stuff.
Speaker A:And it was tea time.
Speaker A: was as red as my hair was in: Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Because it's not red anymore.
Speaker A:But Whitaker's face just looked like a road map of Cleveland and Andy.
Speaker A: and their tee time was like,: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Andy Beans steps up there and he laces this thing.
Speaker A:I'd never heard a sound like that before because I'd never been right next to the tee box before when somebody on a pro hit like that.
Speaker A:And I went, wow.
Speaker A:Of course, Whitaker, he hit it about 30 yards, and that was fine.
Speaker A:But anyway, it was so funny.
Speaker A:And they were just laughing and having one hell of a good time that whole round.
Speaker B:Andy Bean was a good friend.
Speaker B:We lost him, I think, within the last six months, and it's actually Covid that got him, but he was a very good friend.
Speaker B:He was a very good man.
Speaker B:And I learned a lot from Andy Bean.
Speaker B:I was grateful for my friendship that I had with him.
Speaker B:And he was one of the bigger characters that's ever played the PGA Tour.
Speaker B:Really good person, big heart.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, he seemed like it, but I just never.
Speaker A:Because they just kind of came.
Speaker A:Well, you've marched out of a bar at 2:30 in the morning, I'm assuming.
Speaker A:Like, I have had times in my life, and I.
Speaker A:You don't have to give times or dates, but you can just, you know, they just marched right up to that tee, and Andy pegged that thing and kabwam.
Speaker A:And off it went.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And they were going.
Speaker A:And I'm not sure that he.
Speaker A:Not only did he carry Whitaker with the golf, he might have ended up carrying Whitaker around by the end of that round.
Speaker A:I'm not sure, Charlie.
Speaker A:It's all pretty good.
Speaker A:Let's talk about a little bit.
Speaker A:We got to get a little golf in here like this.
Speaker A:I've noticed something over the years.
Speaker A:Everything in the.
Speaker A:The marketing of golf clubs and.
Speaker A:And coaches in this is now it's all about swing distance.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It's all about off the tee, your distance, this and that.
Speaker A:And we see it every year with the new clubs.
Speaker A:You know, if.
Speaker A:If you added up cumulatively over the past five years, an amateur like me should be hitting at the ball another 85 yards on every hole.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So from somebody.
Speaker A:Now that's.
Speaker A:That's on the golf business side, even though you're not doing the instruction or anything like that, but how do you balance that?
Speaker A:I mean, you got to have people coming out and say, I just got a brand new set of whatever the brand name it.
Speaker A:And this one's going to give me 15 more yards.
Speaker A:And maybe you should worry about your quality of your shots.
Speaker A:It's just a.
Speaker A:It's just a weird thing that I just, you know, I kind of key in on some of these.
Speaker B:You know, it's.
Speaker B:It's a little like I.
Speaker B:I'm a fly fisherman, and.
Speaker B:And occasionally I'll go bass fishing.
Speaker B:Have you ever been to any of the Cabela's bass pro shops?
Speaker B:You go in there and you look at all of the gear that's got in there.
Speaker B:I mean, you can send a camera out on a drone boat to drop and see where the fish are and what's there, what depth they are, what they're eating, all this.
Speaker B:You would think there wouldn't be a fish in a lake or in the ocean or anywhere because of all the gadgets we got to catch them.
Speaker B:And yet the.
Speaker B:The fish and ocean, they're still full of fish.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Kind of the same way you.
Speaker B:You have to have hope.
Speaker B:It's always been that way.
Speaker B:Being able to innovate, try to find new ways to do things, whether it's with the equipment or the technique or the psychology or the physical part of it, it's about giving folks hope that they can get better.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And unfortunately, it's kind of like weight loss, something I know a lot about.
Speaker B:The only thing I know more about weight about than weight loss and weight gain.
Speaker B:But, you know, I.
Speaker B:I know if I want to lose weight, I need to eat less and work out more.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:If I want to get better at golf, I need to figure out how to chip and putt.
Speaker B:I don't want to do either one of those things.
Speaker B:When I go to golf, you know, I.
Speaker B:I want to hit my driver.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:I want to see how far I can hit it.
Speaker B:When it comes to weight loss, I want to try to find some pill that helps me.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We know how to have success in golf and get better, and we know how to do better with weight, but we don't want to do either one of those things.
Speaker B:We want to do the kind of the fun things and.
Speaker B:And so that, you know, that.
Speaker B:That's what golf is about.
Speaker B:You know, there's.
Speaker B:There's these temptations, these things you can get distracted by, and.
Speaker B:And, you know, there's shiny thing, and you go there.
Speaker B:If I just get this ball, this glove, this, you know, whatever, then I'm gonna hit it by my buddy.
Speaker B:I'm gonna Take my handicap from 18 to 12.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:If you want.
Speaker B:If you're an 18 and you want to be a 12, you probably ought to stretch some and spend 75% of your time figuring out how to make some putts, you know, that'll get you from an 18 to 12.
Speaker B:It's not, you know, the.
Speaker B:The shiny new driver, the new golf ball, how far you can hit it.
Speaker B:You know that, but you still go for the shiny new thing, right?
Speaker B:And that's why we all sit around and golf afterwards.
Speaker B:And this happens whether you're a PGA Tour player or you're a novice.
Speaker B:I mean, I've seen, you know, guys, you know, get to be number one in the world, and they read that somebody says they need to hit it farther, and they try and figure out how to hit it farther, and two years later, they're not in the top 100.
Speaker B:So it's just.
Speaker B:It's just golf, and it's maddening.
Speaker B:It can never be mastered.
Speaker B:You can't ever learn anything about it.
Speaker B:The thing that it does do, that I find is really amazing is when you're ready to quit and never play again.
Speaker B:And, you know, you spend money traveling or joining a club or green fees and.
Speaker B:And, you know, all these things that you get, and I've spent all this money, and I just hate it, and I'm never going to play again.
Speaker B:Then all of a sudden, you hit that five iron that has that feeling and that flight, and it brings you back next time, doesn't it?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, it does bring you back next time, because that's the one that gives you hope.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And we're all.
Speaker B:We're all in it together.
Speaker B:No matter what level you are in, this game mystifies people.
Speaker B:You see, guys get on an incredible role and nobody can beat them.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden, they, you know, they.
Speaker B:They're missing the cut, you know, Never had you tell me another sport that has the equivalent of winning the Masters and missing the cut at Hilton Head a week later.
Speaker B:There's not that equivalent in golf in any other sport, but in golf, it exists.
Speaker A: you that shot, for me, it was: Speaker A:I was just a kid.
Speaker A:I was in Arizona, and we went golfing on New Year's Day at the Scottsdale Country Club then.
Speaker A:Or I don't think they called it that then.
Speaker A:Anyway, I had bought a set of.
Speaker A:I got my first credit card.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:That was the dangerous thing.
Speaker A:So I bought myself a set of Golden Bear irons that big Five mornings.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and I had the woods.
Speaker A:I was never worth a hitting persimmons to begin with, but I had them.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But I hit this three iron Charlie that.
Speaker A:I can still envision it today.
Speaker A:I hit it and it just took off.
Speaker A:And the guys I were playing with, my friends turned around and they said, what the hell was that?
Speaker A:That thing just shot out like a rocket, hit right in the sweet spot.
Speaker A:Made the sound, made the feel.
Speaker A:And it went, I don't know, 200, 225 yards, which I didn't hit.
Speaker A:200, 225 yards, you know, and it was the first time I ever did it.
Speaker A:Probably the last time I ever did it, actually.
Speaker B:You got a taste?
Speaker A:Yeah, I got a taste, and that hooked me, and I've been doing it ever since.
Speaker A:So there you go.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Rolling it together.
Speaker A:Rolling it together.
Speaker A:Okay, what's next on your agenda as far as cooking?
Speaker A:What are you going to try to master next?
Speaker B:You know, I got my eye on a rotisserie attachment, and.
Speaker B:And I'm a big fan of rotisserie chicken.
Speaker B:And I'm thinking, you know, I got this.
Speaker B:This Weber pellet grill rotisserie chicken over that wood.
Speaker B:I'm kind of thinking I looked it up earlier.
Speaker B:It's about 149 investment.
Speaker B:I'm thinking that might be pretty good, you know, over a little pan, maybe some vegetables going in there.
Speaker B:I think that's the next thing I'm going to attempt and see if I can get that right.
Speaker B:The only thing I'm worried about is my temperature probe.
Speaker B:When I put it in that chicken, it ain't gonna spin.
Speaker B:But so far, and the whole operation is going to come to a very quick halt.
Speaker B:I got to deal with that a little bit.
Speaker A:Oh, there's.
Speaker A:There's other ones that you can.
Speaker A:Or the instant reads that you can just pop the lid and hit it for a second, and it'll tell you I wouldn't bother trying to keep the probe on like that because that will turn into a train wreck, but.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I can't believe I didn't get a laugh out of you.
Speaker B:I knew I was gonna throw that at you about the.
Speaker B:You just.
Speaker B:Just went right over your head.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Well, you know what I was thinking about as I was thinking about.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:In the pan, you know, what I would do is I would probably put some onion and some sliced potato, maybe some mushroom stuff I like, and put it in there and then let it.
Speaker A:Because I've done things like that many times.
Speaker A:Let it Drip on there.
Speaker A:And then you don't have to.
Speaker A:If there's anything left over and you want to try to make a gravy, you got the stock right there to make the gravy with.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:I've been messing with gravy.
Speaker B:I've been doing a pork tenderloin on that pellet grill.
Speaker B:And I get the pre.
Speaker B:I'm lazy.
Speaker B:I get the pre marinated kind and I like.
Speaker B:It's like cracked peppercorn.
Speaker B:And so I've been.
Speaker B:I've been doing a Dijon cream white wine sauce that I just kind of start throwing things in the pan with some either Vidalias, which we have this time of year, or salad, some mushrooms, some garlic.
Speaker B:I'll hit it with some.
Speaker B:With some half and half, a little bit of white wine, kind of reduce all of that with the mushrooms and.
Speaker B:And a little Dijon to finish it off.
Speaker B:And that's a really nice sauce.
Speaker B:As you know, I'm getting to thicken a little bit with a half and half with that mushrooms and that Dijon wine on that tenderloin with the cracked pepper corn, you know, kind of marinated into it.
Speaker B:I'll tell you what, that's a.
Speaker B:That's an easy meal to make.
Speaker B:And you serve it to people and they look at you, you know, like you're a Michelin star chef or something.
Speaker B:I'm like, well, it took 15 minutes to whip all that up and I love doing that.
Speaker B:The pellet grills are so easy, you know, just.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've always.
Speaker B:I'd always cooked on a big green egg and that's like a full day.
Speaker B:Yeah, but pellet grills, and I treat it like it's an oven.
Speaker B:It's just easy to fire up, you know, and it's.
Speaker B:And it's so much easier to use.
Speaker B:I find that I use it a lot more.
Speaker B:Maybe I don't get the taste if I was using a stick burner or a big green egg, but I use it a lot more.
Speaker B:So I'm happy to trade off 5% or 10%, you know, of the, of the.
Speaker B:The smoke profile, just for ease of use with them.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:I love the pellet grill.
Speaker A:I'll tell you one thing that I do is.
Speaker A:Well, I.
Speaker A:You talked about Dungeon and Scrab a couple times in the segment.
Speaker A:They're one of our sponsors.
Speaker A:I'll do a big thick.
Speaker A:I have them cut special for me, pork chop and I'll sear those and do it.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:But I make a cream sauce with crab and capers in it to Dungeness and big claw pieces in there and serve that around, and I serve it with some asparagus.
Speaker B:A Dungeness crab cream sauce with capers.
Speaker B:Yeah, you could put that on a dog turd and it would make it taste good.
Speaker B:I mean, that sounds illegal to me.
Speaker B:I'd whip your ass over a bowl of that sauce.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna be able to find any Dungeness crab in Trenton, Georgia, but I'm gonna see if I get some mailed in just to try that.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:You'll have to email me your new address.
Speaker A:I'll see what I can do for you.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:You got it.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Charlie Reimer, big timer.
Speaker A:Thank you so much, buddy.
Speaker A:It's good to see you again.
Speaker A:I'm glad you're healthy and.
Speaker A:And you're moved up there.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:Between my in laws and now you there, I'm gonna have to come back.
Speaker B:Come on, see us.
Speaker B:We'd love to have you at Macklemore, jt, anytime.
Speaker A:You got it.
Speaker A:That's gonna wrap it for the show this week, and we want to thank Charlie and all our sponsors, and I hope you go out and play some good golf, have some fun, enjoy life.
Speaker A:That's what it's really all about.
Speaker A:And take care, everybody.
