Kay Cockerill, Course Reporter Afterhours
This episode of Grilling at the Green delves into a fascinating conversation with Kay Cockrell, wherein we explore the intricacies of personal sentimentality through the lens of lost treasures. We engage in a reflective discourse, as both speakers recount poignant memories associated with cherished items that were ultimately lost, highlighting the emotional weight such possessions carry. Furthermore, we traverse the realms of golf, discussing various unsung heroes and underrated players within the sport, thereby illuminating the often overlooked contributions of individuals who have shaped the golfing landscape. Our dialogue is punctuated by a series of engaging inquiries that reveal personal preferences and insights into the world of golf, providing listeners with a multifaceted perspective. As we conclude, we invite our audience to embrace the joy of golf, while emphasizing the paramount importance of kindness in all endeavors.
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- Painted Hills Natural Beef
- Golf News Network
- NBC
- Golf Channel
- PGA Tour
- Pebble Beach
- Cypress Point
- Pasatiempo
- LPGA
- KPMG
- Black Desert Champion
- Olympic Club
- San Francisco Giants
- Journey
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Transcript
Welcome to Grilling at the Green After Hours.
Speaker A:The conversation that took place after the show ended.
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Speaker A:Welcome to After Hours here on Grilling at the Green and Golf News Network and every place else.
Speaker A:We've got Kay Cockrell today from Golf News.
Speaker A:Not I'm from Golf News Network.
Speaker A:You're from NBC.
Speaker A:How about that?
Speaker A:And Golf Channel.
Speaker A:So since the last time we did this, I'm not going to ask you what your favorite meal would be on death row or your final meal and all that, but I do have a couple that are interesting for you.
Speaker A:Are you ready?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:This is my off week, so I don't know how quick on the uptake.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker A:This is an easy one.
Speaker A:You have to think a little bit.
Speaker A:This is an easy one.
Speaker A:If I get.
Speaker A:If I gave you a box with everything you'd lost in your life, what would be the first thing you reached for in that box?
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:I'd have to say a little.
Speaker B:It was a sapphire and diamond little thin little ring, kind of like this one that my husband gave me for our 10th anniversary.
Speaker B:And I was at the PGA Tour event in Reno and I was putting sunscreen on.
Speaker B:I took my ring off and put it, set it down somewhere, and it got lost and never found.
Speaker B:And it still irritates me to this day because it was really sentimental.
Speaker B:It was a sentimental piece of jewelry that I, I really miss.
Speaker A:You know, I had, my wife gave me her grandfather's wedding ring.
Speaker A:And it was all inscribed, nice gold band and all that.
Speaker A:And I was doing a horse show in Texas in December down outside of Houston, and it was cold.
Speaker A:And normally I was wearing gloves.
Speaker A:It was indoors, but it was still cold.
Speaker A:Anyway, my hands, I think everybody does, my fingers tend to shrink up a little bit when it gets cold.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I pulled off my glove and evidently that ring went flying in the dirt.
Speaker A:I didn't notice it, probably because my hands were too dang cold.
Speaker A:Anyway, my in laws had come to see me.
Speaker A:They live in Houston.
Speaker A:They'd come to see me and take me to dinner.
Speaker A:And I like, the evening performance was over.
Speaker A:And I looked at my ring, wasn't there.
Speaker A:I had five people out there in the center of this horse show arena looking in the dirt, and we never did find it.
Speaker A:So I'VE always felt guilty about that.
Speaker A:Okay, onto something more fun.
Speaker B:You're not to be too attached to things.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:Be more attached to your permanent caddy.
Speaker A:How's that?
Speaker B:Do you know what?
Speaker B:I've never lost a golf club.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:I can't say that.
Speaker A:Okay, what's your favorite lifesaver color?
Speaker B:Ooh, orange is a lifesaver color, isn't it?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, orange.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I was tempted to say red, but I don't really like cherry flavored things.
Speaker B:I love cherries, but I do not like cherry flavored things.
Speaker A:Yeah, I understand.
Speaker B:So orange.
Speaker A:You're not the first person that's ever said that.
Speaker B:I am a San Francisco Giants fan because my husband worked there for 30 years and I grew up a fan.
Speaker B:So orange.
Speaker B:We have a lot of orange.
Speaker A:Well, I have orange.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What's the one song you want to hear when you start your car and the radio comes on?
Speaker B:Oh, gee, that.
Speaker B:I am so bad at knowing titles to songs.
Speaker B:Some probably like, like a Beatles song.
Speaker B:Like, I get by with a little help from my friends.
Speaker B:You know something, I like new music, but I also like the old music.
Speaker B:I love Beatles songs.
Speaker B:And so something like that.
Speaker B:It just, you know, puts you in a good frame of mind and a good, A good positive outlook for the day.
Speaker A:I am, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm so glad you didn't say Journey from the band Journey.
Speaker A:They're a good band.
Speaker A:They're from San Francisco, but, you know, you expanded your reach there.
Speaker A:K Name an unsung hero in the golf world.
Speaker B:Well, maybe she's not as unsung anymore.
Speaker B:Marian Holland, who basically helped create pebble beach companies and the pebble beach golf course and Cypress Point and was good friends with Bobby Jones.
Speaker B:And she had ideas and helped create some holes, including the famous 16th at Cyprus.
Speaker B:And she owned and built Pasatiempo.
Speaker A:Oh, there you go.
Speaker B:And she is somebody who was way ahead of her time in the 20s and 30s, doing things that women really weren't encouraged to do.
Speaker A:That is excellent example.
Speaker A:Name a player you think is underrated.
Speaker B:Boy, that's a good question.
Speaker B:I'm thinking lpga, but, you know, my, my brain wanted to go to Gino Titicun because I don't know how much the, the big golfing world knows her.
Speaker B:I mean, she's certainly made her mark on the LPGA tour.
Speaker B:She, I think right now is the best player.
Speaker B:I hate to put this moniker on somebody, sure.
Speaker B:Especially since she's like 23 years old, but I definitely think she's the best Player to not have won a major yet.
Speaker B:Okay, time.
Speaker A:What's the first thing you reach for when you're done covering around?
Speaker A:When you get to take off the headset and the belt pack and.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're kind of free.
Speaker B:I probably just like to kick off my shoes because I probably just walked 6 to 7 miles and sandals on.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I hike.
Speaker B:You know, you go out and hike 8 to 10 miles and you a lot of elevation.
Speaker B:You just want to get those shoes off and put some sandals or flip flops on.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:What's a golf course that you would like to play that you have not played yet?
Speaker B:Gosh, probably.
Speaker B:Well, Augusta.
Speaker B:I haven't played Augusta yet.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Or I'm thinking like I've played a lot of the good courses in Scotland, but in Ireland, Royal Port Rush, where they're going to have the, the men's British.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Up in Northern Ireland, that.
Speaker B:That would be.
Speaker B:I'd like to go play several of the Irish courses.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:You're on the road a lot.
Speaker A:Name one place you always look forward to going to for work.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, I love Portland.
Speaker A:But you're not coming this year.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:And I love Seattle.
Speaker B:I loved going up to Sahali a couple of in the last 10 years for the KPMG and very partial to the Northwest and the Northeast.
Speaker B:I am not working it this year either.
Speaker B:But the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:A new event last year.
Speaker B:It'll be in its.
Speaker B:In its infancy.
Speaker B:I think it's the second year unless I.
Speaker B:In Boston.
Speaker B:The FM Championship as well.
Speaker A:I love Boston Northeast and we.
Speaker B:The Tour is.
Speaker B:Is slowly getting back to the Northeast.
Speaker A:But yeah, I love Boston.
Speaker B:Also.
Speaker B:I have a new favorite from this year.
Speaker A:What's that?
Speaker B:Utah and the Black Desert champion.
Speaker A:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:Really cool.
Speaker B:I mean talk about stunning backdrop and a really cool golf course.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:That was phenomenal.
Speaker B:And there's great hiking all around that spot.
Speaker A:The funniest thing you ever saw happen to a colleague while you were on the air that we did not see at home that you can talk about?
Speaker B:Oh, gosh.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:That is.
Speaker B:That's a good question.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know if I have.
Speaker B:I don't really have an answer for that one.
Speaker B:I'd have to think long enough.
Speaker A:Okay, well, you'll.
Speaker A:We'll cover that the next time you come on the show.
Speaker A:How's that?
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That would make.
Speaker B:Make us have another date down the road that we'll have to back up.
Speaker A:Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker A:We can do that.
Speaker A:I Will actually email you a couple of these questions in advance next time, like a week or two before.
Speaker B:Okay, very good.
Speaker B:Now, if you were talking to Grant Boone, he'd probably have, like, five of those things immediately come to his brain.
Speaker A:What's one thing you wish spectators would not do?
Speaker B:Well, yell mashed potatoes.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Probably the stupidest thing.
Speaker B:Or yell something silly just so that they can later go back and hear their voice on tv.
Speaker B:I'm assuming that's what it's for.
Speaker B:Otherwise, I think, you know, spectators, for the most part, I like everything they do, and I don't think.
Speaker B:You know, I think.
Speaker B:I think sometimes players are a little too critical of if spectators are moving around or making noise.
Speaker B:I think you got to give spectators a little leeway.
Speaker B:They're out there having fun, you know, maybe drinking a beer, eating, you know, hanging out with their buddies.
Speaker B:And I think it's incumbent on players to just put the blinders on and be a little more focused and not expect spectators to.
Speaker B:To be perfectly still and motionless and quiet while they're hitting.
Speaker B:I, like.
Speaker B:I never minded a little bit of action and noise.
Speaker B:It meant that there were people around.
Speaker B:And, yeah, the LPGA spectators, I just think in general, are more well behaved.
Speaker B:It's not the crazy crew that you get at some of the PGA events a la Phoenix, which is just nutso.
Speaker B:And even the.
Speaker B:I don't think they want to play in that environment all the time.
Speaker B:No ears from the stands out onto the greens that just.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That's not cool.
Speaker B:You got to keep it outside the ropes.
Speaker A:Yeah, I.
Speaker A:You said mashed potatoes.
Speaker A:The other one is get in the hole from 185 yards out.
Speaker A:You know, I think it's like, what.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:That ball going in the hole every single time.
Speaker B:A ball.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:A couple of food questions for you kids.
Speaker A:Red or green relish?
Speaker A:I had a big go back and forth with Charlie Reimer a couple weeks ago because he was like, green relish only and this on social media.
Speaker A:And I said, no, Charlie, red relish was actually made for hamburgers, which is true.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm a food guy.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:And, you know, you know about the burger dogs that are sold at Olympic Club and.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Other very exclusive places.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They have a red relish, pickle relish that they put on that is specifically made for that burger.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm not a relish person.
Speaker B:I do not do relish at all.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Grilled onions.
Speaker B:I always want a grilled onion.
Speaker B:In fact, when I order up the Burger dog.
Speaker B:I go grilled onions, and then just a little mustard.
Speaker B:I'm very a minimalist when it comes to my burger dogs, and I don't.
Speaker B:I don't put relish on hot dogs.
Speaker B:I don't mind a dill pickle, but I don't like the relish.
Speaker B:I'm a salsa girl.
Speaker B:If you asked me about salsa, I put salsa on everything.
Speaker B:On eggs, chips, and salsa.
Speaker B:I would even put salsa on vegetables.
Speaker A:Well, sure.
Speaker A:I'll have to.
Speaker A:I'll have to send you a picture of a recipe I did a couple of weeks ago on tv, where it was chicken thigh, basil chicken thigh with some orange on it with mango peach salsa on rice.
Speaker A:It was pretty good dish.
Speaker B:I would be open to try any and all salsas.
Speaker B:Chunky, smooth, you know, hot, mild.
Speaker B:Send it my way.
Speaker A:Okay, last question.
Speaker A:What's the oldest thing in your refrigerator?
Speaker B:Ooh.
Speaker A:I say that because you're gone a lot.
Speaker B:So Worcestershire sauce, which I probably buy for, like, a couple, like, one or two uses a year.
Speaker B:I don't use it a lot, but it's in there, and it's like I pull it out.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:How.
Speaker B:How long has this been in here for?
Speaker A:That's like I tell people.
Speaker A:My wife and I have been together for 30 while.
Speaker A:We've been married 34 years, and we're on our second bottle of Tabasco, so.
Speaker B:I don't think they have expiration dates, though, do you?
Speaker A:I don't think so either.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:Anyway, Kay, thank you.
Speaker A:You've been a great sport as always in after hours.
Speaker A:And thanks for being on the regular show.
Speaker A:And I'm sorry you're not coming to Portland, but I'm sure our paths will cross again one of these days, so it's all good.
Speaker B:Sounds like a plan.
Speaker B:Thanks so much for the time.
Speaker A:No problem.
Speaker A:We'll be back next week with another edition of After Hours here on Grilling at the Green.
Speaker A:And like we always say, go out, have some fun, play some golf.
Speaker A:But most importantly, be kind.
Speaker A:Take care, everybody.
