Brad Harvey - Golf Heritage Society - Afterhours Encore
In this episode, we engage in a profound discourse with Brad Harvey, a prominent figure associated with the Gulf Heritage Society, wherein we explore the multifaceted influences of golf on personal development and community engagement. We delve into the significance of fostering inclusivity within the realm of golf, particularly emphasizing the necessity for enhanced opportunities for aspiring players, especially the youth. The dialogue further traverses the impactful role of golf in cultivating social skills and mathematical acumen among children, illustrating how the sport serves as a conduit for personal growth and camaraderie. Additionally, our conversation reflects upon the historical legacies within the golfing community and the lessons derived from past experiences that shape our current perspectives. This episode ultimately encapsulates a shared appreciation for the game and its enduring capacity to enrich lives.
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- Gulf Heritage Society
- Pinehurst
- Golf Newsnet
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Transcript
Welcome to Grilling at the Green After Hours.
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Speaker B:Hey, everybody.
Speaker B:Welcome to After Hours.
Speaker B:I'm jt.
Speaker B:I'm here with Brad Harvey.
Speaker B:You need to go look up the Gulf Heritage Society and you'll see Brad's smiling face there because He's a District 8 director.
Speaker B:Is that right?
Speaker B:Is that how you say it?
Speaker A:Yeah, I think.
Speaker A:Zone director.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right, all right.
Speaker B:So I'm going to abuse him here for just a few minutes in the after hours, and we'll start out with something kind of fun.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:You ready, Brett?
Speaker A:I'm ready.
Speaker B:Okay, here we go.
Speaker B:If you could play around of golf with one of your golfing heroes, who would it be?
Speaker B:You can't say me.
Speaker A:Yeah, probably Jack Nicklaus.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Or Tom Kite.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, some fun.
Speaker B:Not a lot of people, when I ask him that question, bring up Tom Kite.
Speaker B:Some of them will bring up Crenshaw once in a while.
Speaker B:You know, they're kind of compatriots there, but they don't.
Speaker B:Nobody's really said that, but probably, I don't know, four or five times only over the years that people have mentioned Tom Kite.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker B:Who was the biggest influence on you personally as far as your golf?
Speaker A:That'd be my dad.
Speaker A:Yeah, my dad was.
Speaker A:We, we were just lived off the second hole of Rogue Valley Country Club just down the street, and he was a member there.
Speaker A:And I don't know if he was club champion, but four ball champion, all that up there.
Speaker A:He was, he was a really good player.
Speaker A:And I just, I took up the game because he had it and he was, he was a golf collector, too, so.
Speaker B:Oh, there you go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So, Brad, if you were declared supreme leader of golf for one day, just one day, what would you decree as supreme leader?
Speaker A:Make Augusta national public?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:With you, I'm worth.
Speaker B:You're the first one that's ever said that, too.
Speaker B:I, I like this.
Speaker B:I like this guy.
Speaker B:He's good.
Speaker B:Well, good.
Speaker B:What's the biggest mistake you ever made on a golf course besides like muffin a hole, you know?
Speaker A:You know, it's, it's, it's hard to say because I don't believe in right or wrong, Especially when it comes to golf, you know, it's always the decision.
Speaker A:You know something, I could take a double on one hole and a birdie on the next one.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I guess I.
Speaker A:Probably the biggest mistake I ever made on the golf course is not pursuing my playing more.
Speaker B:Okay, fair enough.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Name something that you were really enthused about when you first saw it or heard of it, and then with time passing, your excitement kind of fizzled.
Speaker A:Probably the golf ball is.
Speaker A:What is the name of the golf ball?
Speaker A:The one that Jack did.
Speaker A:There was a limited flight golf ball.
Speaker A:It's not the bottom ball.
Speaker A:What was that golf ball name had the dimples on the outside.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he did it in the Bahamas.
Speaker A:Can't think of it.
Speaker A:I'm getting old and I can't think of thing.
Speaker A:But it sounded like a good idea because you could have more golf courses, you know, because the ball would only go about 100 yards.
Speaker A:But then afterwards it's like.
Speaker A:Well, I don't like that because I want to see people hit at 300 yards, not 100.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:If you could have dinner with a historical figure, who would it be and what would be on the menu?
Speaker B:See, I always got to get food into this stuff because that's me.
Speaker B:But historical figure.
Speaker B:And who would it be and what would be on the menu?
Speaker A:Probably Philip, Hugh.
Speaker A:And we'd probably have steak because I'm a meat and potato kind of guys.
Speaker B:Okay, fair enough.
Speaker B:Anything for dessert?
Speaker A:No, just the cantor that we'd be talking about because he was a very famous club repair guy back in the hundred.
Speaker B:So here's a fun one for you, Brad.
Speaker B:What do you.
Speaker B:What's one thing you miss about your 20s, besides not hurting when you get up in the morning?
Speaker A:You got that one for me?
Speaker A:You know, my mind.
Speaker A:I think when I was 20, I thought differently.
Speaker A:I could be.
Speaker A:I could really bear down and grind a little harder on the golf game or.
Speaker A:This is going to sound silly.
Speaker A:Sweating, you know, going out and working and really getting up a good sweat.
Speaker A:Now I dread the thought of sweating, you know, and my mind drifts a lot, so I kind of miss that.
Speaker A:Trying to stay focused, you know.
Speaker B:Lawn chair on the patio or the deck looks pretty good some days, you.
Speaker A:Know, it sure does.
Speaker A:You know, if the fence is falling down, I just say, I'll get it tomorrow.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Honey, can you call somebody about the fifth?
Speaker B:Exactly one of those things.
Speaker B:What's.
Speaker B:What's the biggest change you think, if any should be made to Pro golf and amateur golf?
Speaker A:Well, that's a good question.
Speaker A:You know, golf is in such a good place right now.
Speaker A:I think we still really need to open it up more to more people.
Speaker A:Because if you look at it, you know, when you look at baseball and football and basketball, there's so many opportunities.
Speaker A:You got G League and basketball, you got minor leagues, all that.
Speaker A:We really don't have anything that for golf.
Speaker A:We have the Korn Ferry Tour and stuff like that.
Speaker A:And I think it needs to be opened up more.
Speaker A:We need to open up more junior things to have more kids be involved in golf.
Speaker A:Same thing with amateur.
Speaker A:There needs to be more opportunities for them to do things.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, if you look at baseball, you got the minors and football.
Speaker A:Minors, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And in football, you got the NFL, you got the usfl, you've got college, you've got city leagues, you got everything.
Speaker B:It's very difficult.
Speaker B:And I think that the PGA Tour has made it more difficult for people to get up on the big tour.
Speaker B:Oh, you know, absolutely.
Speaker A:I remember there's.
Speaker A:There's some smaller tours around.
Speaker A:When I was.
Speaker A:When I was playing, I was down in Southern California, around the Bakersfield area, and they had the Golden State Tour.
Speaker A:Yeah, those guys were like, maybe the B players of the PGA Tour.
Speaker A:They would go out and shoot 64 in a day, you know, and so it's.
Speaker A:It's really hard.
Speaker A:I'd like to see some more development.
Speaker A:I'm glad the NCAA is doing that.
Speaker A:You could finish in the top 12 and the NCAAs and you got to kind of get your card, but it is hard.
Speaker A:You don't see the big college names transitioning to PGA Tour because it is so difficult.
Speaker A:And I wish we could do something to include more people in that.
Speaker B:Well, there's such a pool of guys right below the 125 or whatever number you want to use.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's this, like, human wave of people that have been, at one time or another, qualified to.
Speaker B:Or qualified to get a chance to get.
Speaker B:Qualified to get on the tour.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:It's kind of nuts.
Speaker A:It is a different.
Speaker A:I've gone to a couple of stops thinking, oh, I could do this.
Speaker A:And, you know, and you.
Speaker A:You go on a practice round and shoot 70, and you're 10 off the lead in one day.
Speaker A:You know, often, like, these guys are.
Speaker A:They're not human.
Speaker A:They're on a different planet.
Speaker A:It's just amazing.
Speaker B:They're sharks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And, you know, you being a.
Speaker B:Having been a teacher and all, do you think golf can help kids that have trouble with math and.
Speaker B:Or social skills?
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker A:I mean, golf is so social to begin with, and, you know, it's one of those things, is that you're.
Speaker A:You're out there and everybody's in the same boat.
Speaker A:It's like a kind of.
Speaker A:Golf is kind of like a sinking boat is that doesn't matter who you are, what you are, you're all going to climb together to survive.
Speaker A:And that's what golf is to me, is that when you're on the golf course, it doesn't matter your background or anything.
Speaker A:Everybody's going to be with you.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And I think that's really good for kids.
Speaker A:And there's a lot of math in golf.
Speaker A:I mean, you're talking over par, calculating this.
Speaker A:You have to learn to focus.
Speaker A:I grew up with adhd, and it was very good for me to have one thing to focus on, and that was the next shot.
Speaker A:And so it's a kind of a calming thing.
Speaker A:You got to learn to say, okay, I got to do this.
Speaker A:It's not a force sport where you go hit someone harder.
Speaker A:It's, you know, you really gotta to stay calm, and I think it does wonders.
Speaker A:I used to teach junior golf all the time out at Merriweather.
Speaker A:I did it for about 25 years, and the kids could really get into it, and it calms them down because it's an active sport, too, because you're walking, you're moving, you're hitting something and stuff.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:It's a great sport for kids.
Speaker B:And a lot of times you're off looking for your ball in rough terrain.
Speaker B:So you get a little mountaineering skill in there too.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Orientation and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Got to bring a compass sometimes.
Speaker B:A search party.
Speaker B:Here you go.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:If you could erase one mistake from your past, what would it be?
Speaker A:You know, probably in high school, I had this one tournament that it's.
Speaker A:I was going long and we had to qualify each week to.
Speaker A:To make varsity.
Speaker A:And I had a bad hole and I let it get to me, and it was only like a bogey or double or something like that.
Speaker A:So I went to the next hole and I just kind of quit from there.
Speaker A:And I would have been the number one guy going into the varsity tournament, which would have got me to state everything else like that.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I let my emotions get the best of me that day.
Speaker A:And I wish I wouldn't have.
Speaker A:If I could do that, I think it would have changed just a little different of My golf path a little bit.
Speaker B:Yeah, I understand.
Speaker B:If you were an animal, Brad, what animal would you be?
Speaker A:Oh, I don't know.
Speaker A:Probably.
Speaker A:Well, my wife's favorite animal is like an otter, so probably an otter.
Speaker B:You know, they're cute.
Speaker A:Well, they're cute.
Speaker A:They could swim well and they have a great mustache, you know, and they could.
Speaker A:They, you know, they just don't have a care of anything, it seems like.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they stand up and kind of look like a meerkat sometimes.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:They're long, they're lanky, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't qualify anymore to be an otter.
Speaker B:I'm more like the walrus.
Speaker B:What's the first thing you do when you get up in the morning?
Speaker A:Well, it's kind of funny because it's so.
Speaker A:I don't want to say it's the same thing every day, but it kind of is.
Speaker A:Is that the situation that I'm in is that I'm my son's personal caretaker and I'm actually a state employee for that.
Speaker A:I'm glad we live in a country that will actually pay me to do that.
Speaker A:And so the first thing I get up is that it's the same old, same old.
Speaker A:We get up and.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I go see him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The first thing I do is that.
Speaker A:That's My mind is just automatic.
Speaker A:Kind of like when you get up and go to work, that's.
Speaker A:That's what I do.
Speaker A:I just get up and go see him.
Speaker A:Then see what the day day does.
Speaker B:Good for you.
Speaker B:Good for you.
Speaker B:Couple more here.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:This is always one that people really like.
Speaker B:What would be your last meal on death row?
Speaker A:Oh, boy.
Speaker A:My last meal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Boy, that would be a tough one because, you know, I don't know if I could actually eat knowing that I'm not going to be around much longer, but.
Speaker B:Well, you can eat anything.
Speaker B:You don't have to worry about too many calories.
Speaker A:This is true.
Speaker A:This is true.
Speaker A:So I would probably want the old school McDonald's milkshakes they used to do once a month in the paper cups.
Speaker A:Yeah, my brother and I used to get those and we would freeze them.
Speaker A:Then it was almost like ice cream instead of a shake after that.
Speaker A:So that's probably once they could do the old menu like that.
Speaker B:Yeah, you could do whatever you want.
Speaker B:And they.
Speaker B:I think they don't have to do it, but they.
Speaker B:They try to do it.
Speaker B:Okay, Brad, last question here.
Speaker B:This is your opportunity.
Speaker B:What is your message to the.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:Just smile and just let Things be how they are, you know, you never know what the future is going to hold and you just got to enjoy it while you can.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:We're here really for a pretty short time.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:And you got to enjoy the best you can.
Speaker A:Just like when you're playing on a golf course, like if you get to go to Pinehurst, you don't want to be angry the whole 18 holes because how many have like that?
Speaker A:It's a blessing that we have every day that we're up and we get to do things and see people.
Speaker B:Yep, absolutely.
Speaker B:Brad Harvey, Region 8 director from the Gulf Heritage Society.
Speaker B:Plus his acumen as a club repairman, creator, fixer, hickory magic guy, all these things.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:It's been really good to meet me, Brad.
Speaker B:And we will have you back on the show and maybe we'll put you and Akbar in the show together and see if you can make him like only talk in short sentences.
Speaker B:How's that?
Speaker A:Could probably do that.
Speaker A:Because I have some things I need to talk to about because he was.
Speaker A:I wanted him to play for Beaverton.
Speaker A:He played for Westview and he was in my wife's class at Five Oaks and I always tried to get him to come to Beaverton and he never did, so.
Speaker B:Well, we'll work on that.
Speaker A:We'll get there.
Speaker B:We'll work on that.
Speaker B:Thank you, Brad Harvey.
Speaker B:Hey, we're going to get out of here.
Speaker B:This is after hours on.
Speaker B:What are.
Speaker B:What is this show anyway?
Speaker B:Grilling at the Green.
Speaker B:Invite you to listen to us on few of the radio stations, our own podcast versions and the Golf Newsnet out there on iHeart.
Speaker B:We do well on that.
Speaker B:And the first, I think three, four episodes of Grilling at the Green television is now available on Golf Newsnet Television.
Speaker B:So if you go to GNN and look at their website, they'll tell you how to get it.
Speaker B:And I think you can see the previews of the shows on the website too.
Speaker B:So anyway, I'm jt.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker B:We'll be back next week and go out there, play some golf, have some fun.
Speaker B:And most, as I always say, be kind.
Speaker B:Take care, everybody.
